this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.
https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.
a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.
I heard that they may have announce my disfellowshipping to congregations over 3,000 miles away on the east coast of the US because I sent mailings to some in those congregation with my business return address. I sent them copies from the internet with the 8 criteria for thought reform with my return address:
http://www.exitsupportnetwork.com/artcls/mindctrl/lifton.htm
god put to death this couple for not being honest and transparent with dedicated funds.
shouldn't the one and only true organization of god also be 100% transparent and honest with dedicated funds?
you would think!.
Yes to think of God's severe penalty for a little deceit accompanying a gift of mercy, what the hell does he have in store for these Faith and Discreet bull shit artist?
this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.
https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.
a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.
In my case about 18 years ago 2001 I was summoned to a committee meeting at my place of business, I went to the regular meetings a few day before and they wanted to meet with me in the backroom to which I refused and said what ever you wish to talk to me about talk to me right here in front of your members to which ended the conversation that day and led them to come to my place of work.
During that meeting at my place of self employment they simply invited me to attend a judicial meeting to which I asked them "what is the charge"? They said : "Speaking Against The Organization". As A former elder I never heard of such a charge and so asked them to put the summons in writing to which they refused so I then took out a piece of paper and wrote the charge of speaking against the Watchtower Organization and dated it and asked them to sign it,, which they of course refused. I then said I would like to bring my lawyer to this meeting, and they refused that request as well.
When I went to their secret kangaroo court I was asked if I had any recording device,, as these were not allowed in this behind closed doors meeting. I made some snide remark about it being a kangaroo secret trial and was told the the privacy request was for my protection/privacy benefits and not theirs.
Any way as with any kangaroo court the cards were stacked against me.
Surely I'm thinking that such proceedings must violate some laws in the US because of it whole phony nature.
Can the fact that they call these "Judicial" meeting lead to lawsuits over the way they carry out their unfair "judical' practices?
this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.
https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.
a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.
JC,
It's kind of nice to have you on this thread, I take no offence if you shoot down any idea or angle of getting them to court I have,, in fact you save me a lot of time, so thank you.
So who will have the first idea that JC3something can't shoot down and that's what I'm hoping for, call it wishful thinking which it is, but who knows? And don't forget wishful thinking has its honeymoon stage,,, before reality sets in and the whole thing comes to a screeching halt. Hey any of you out of the box thinkers willing to put it to the test before JC, and get him to I don't know, stop his nay saying?
apologies if this topic has been discussed earlier.. i was thinking of whether demanding for a ban on shunning policy would be beneficial for the larger society.
following are some things that we need to remember while advocating the issue:.
1. shunning is not limited to jw's and for many americans, it is not that controversial as it seems.. 2. jw shunning is not a dark secret policy.
I enjoy these kind of think tanks. Everybody playing all nice and stuff, and so far very few ruffled feathers.
So what type of human right violation in your country could work against a totalitarian mind control cult that masquerades as a religion,, who's primary weapon is "Disfellowshipping" members to keep them under control/ unified thoughts full of religious delusional bullshit, with the main directive: to Listen Obey and be Blessed/cursed a blatant in your face corporate theme song if ever there was one. I do think the Watchtower printing establishment day are number for hiding behind being a religion are numbered as the laws improve.
I really do think we will see the legal system eradicating these old cults one building sale after another to pay off all the laws they violate because they are so in denial of their own flaws and fuck up in more ways than you can imagine.
this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.
https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.
a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.
Human rights violations might be a avenue that needs to be explored? Positive negativity will stop thinking, and give up the search.
I'm no legal eagle so I don't know all the laws that apply in my own country, so I can't intelligently comment so I will rely on JC323 critique for any flaws in my comments. I'm sure there is a way, the thing is can somebody find it. This just might be a job for AI.
How about freedom of speech, freedom to contradict or believed differently than the Corporation's ever changing self serving publish currant teachings? That would make for a nice public trial or something.
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/01/utrecht-university-to-investigate-sex-abuse-claims-against-jehovahs-witnesses/.
https://www.trouw.nl/home/overheid-laat-onderzoeken-hoe-jehovah-s-getuigen-omgaan-met-misbruik~aa9e6840/ (in dutch).
I wonder what AM#3's corporate Jehovah is thinking about all this and what it's doing to his egocentric name reputation.
this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.
https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.
a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.
Thanks JC3, I value your contribution to this thread.
this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.
https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.
a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.
O and I think it is good to find the Watchtower corporation weak spots legally what ever they are and dig in. Especially now that they are spread so thin financially and legally in the courts already, strike while the iron is hot as the saying goes, so think, think, think, think.
this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.
https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.
a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.
Ok let's see the goods.
